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PostSubject: Hierarchies and socialisation   23/3/2009, 21:32

When you ask psychologist what is difference between Aspergian and neurotypical, psychologist is often unwilling or unable to respond in clear terms. I will here try to explain what lies in centre of neurotypical civilisation. What you might hear is that neurotypicals care about social codes, politeness and being together. That is not that simple.

To be Aspergian is like exploring new planet. We are aware of ourselves when we grow up, but not our surroundings.

Neurotypicals are other way around. They learn to be aware of themselves, but are naturally aware of their surroundings and other people in it. As well as their social position after initial coping.

That is key to understand them. Socialisation.

They form natural hierarchies. Your position in hierarchy is determined by your peers, and you could chose to accept it or to change social group to be with. Your position is also affected by externalities. For example, Claudius (reigned 41-54 AD) was born with Tourette's Syndrome but managed to become Roman Emperor.

Thus, neurotypicals are naturally inclined to elect alpha males and alpha females, as well as omega males and omega females. They chose latter from people who are different in some way or another, because group forms itself by defining itself in contrast to surrounding world. That is basis for family, for tribe, for nation and for corporation.

Without understanding this, we cannot understand neurotypical way of thinking. To us, society is naturally flat and composed of individuals. For neurotypicals, it is hierarchical and composed of formally or informally structured groups.
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PostSubject: Re: Hierarchies and socialisation   25/3/2009, 01:51

I agree, to adolescent NTs popularity and social standing is the most important aspect in their lives. Even more so than their schoolwork or jobs, or anything else that is actually important.
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PostSubject: Re: Hierarchies and socialisation   25/3/2009, 16:01

Rover OS wrote:
I agree, to adolescent NTs popularity and social standing is the most important aspect in their lives. Even more so than their schoolwork or jobs, or anything else that is actually important.


For neurotypicals, occupation and social status is same thing.

Therefore, they get confused when things are not in their place. One example is Franklin Roosevelt. He had to not sit in wheelchair, unless he would appear as weak.
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PostSubject: Re: Hierarchies and socialisation   24/4/2011, 22:51

I wouldn't be so sure that Aspies don't form hierarchies - have there ever been enough in one place to tell? I suspect, from my own experience, is that there are just too many Alpha's for that to happen. Sure, you get limited ones - I've had other Aspies hanging off my every word and command, just like a personal servant - but maybe there aren't enough of them to make a hierarchy. Or maybe they can only be one, either a servant or a leader (though a leader is the servant of his people; I hope you understand what I mean), so there can only be two levels. Or maybe we lack the Machiavillian intelligence required to maintain such a complex system.

Whatever the case, it sure makes a viable nation ever much more distant.
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